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Is it just me or am I just old....  

These newer rods seem to be built lighter in action than they are rated.  I picked up a M Fast Spinning rod at the shop last night looking around and it just seemed alot lighter like a ML action.   I thought it might be the brand, so I went and picked another one up in another brand.  SAME THING.   I swear Ill end up having to get a heavier action rod, because these newer rods are so light in action.

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Interesting. Next time I buy a rod, I’ll see if I notice it. Sounds like a conspiracy to me!!!

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1 minute ago, SteveHTN said:

Interesting. Next time I buy a rod, I’ll see if I notice it. Sounds like a conspiracy to me!!!

Im serious.  The new Shimano rods, Ducketts, TFOs and others all felt lighter in action than my old trusty rods.  

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Who knows. Maybe the way the technology is going, the action is farther back on the butt, or it just feels that way because the rod is so much lighter. Could also be, these rod companies account for line having a lot less stretch than before. But all this is merely my “often wrong” speculation. 

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Wes - the trend these days is for lighter rods.  I'm gonna guess the action differences you're experiencing are a function of the newer, lighter weight rod blanks.  This hasn't been an issue for me because I like a little softer tip.  Enhances sensitivity and casting distance.  B

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Is that because lines have a lot less stretch? Just curious. Seems like even mono has less stretch nowadays. 

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I wanted to see what ya'll are talking about so I took 3 of my custom built rods made by Earl Deal on the same exact blanks as G Loomis made their rods with back in the day and went and matched the actions of 3 of Tommys rods he bought on Black Friday this year. He got 3 new rods that were on sale that day. He bought a Shimano Teramar in MH, a St. Croix Mojo and a St Croix Bass X rod and for the most part they may be a little lighter blanks the my rods but not enough to make me want to buy new rods. If I needed a new rod I would go with the Shimano Teramar before the others he bought..........JMHO

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6 hours ago, SteveHTN said:

Is that because lines have a lot less stretch? Just curious. Seems like even mono has less stretch nowadays. 

I don't think so, Steve.  I think it's all about feel - being able to detect the slightest of changes in weight or movement.

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   A bit of help, maybe.  https://www.fix.com/blog/selecting-the-right-fishing-rod/

There is no set standard in the rod industry.  One manufacturer's MH Fast Tip may be another manufacturer's HVY Fast Tip. Generally speaking the cheaper rods weigh more than the more expensive.  Simply due to cost of material. There are other factors but nothing trumps costs.  Weight figures in the fatigue issues. 

A lighter more sensitive rod is in demand. The blank is part of this equation. How the blank is fixed to handle, reel seat and guides are also something to consider. If the components are top quality and assembled by trained employees.  These things need to be considered when you're looking to spend your money.

Wife owns a sales agency and we've been around sporting goods manufacturers for many moons. And yes, age is a factor. 

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