Donnie Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Is anyone having trouble with horsepower because of ethanol in the gas. I still can't get my 90hp Mariner to pull it's weight and someone told me that's becoming a big problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whopper Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Donnie just ask Softy I'm sure he'll give ya his worth I've seem to be hearing a bunch of war stories lately on this matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountainman Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 It is a MAJOR problem, Donnie. Never, ever run ethanol gas without treatment. Personally, I only use non-ethanol fuel and still add Marine Stabil to it. And every once in a while, I'll run a can of SeaFoam thru her too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softbaitmaker Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 If you run Ethanol fuel you definately need to run Blue Marine Sta-Bil every time you fuel up. I have a station here in town that sells 100% gas (so they say) but I don't trust any of them that say that. I still run the Blue Juice. I also use midgrade or High Test fuel depending on what I have planned. If I am fishing a tournament and know I have long runs I will use High octane fuel w/ blue juice because I get much better milage for long runs. If I am just going out to practice of just going fishing I will use mid grade octane w/ blue juice. I seldom use regular unless I'm force to due to pocket book. I get lousey fuel milage with regular fuel and low performance. I have a big son in law and I'm no twiggy myself and running regular fuel when comes to hole shots it sucks and takes for ever to plain off. With High test I'm up and down 5 times faster and running up to pad position in half the time. The oil companies are being controlled by the EPA and the Ethanol Companies these days. The more bucks sent under the table to EPA by bootleggers making that moonshine they add to gas the worse the fuel is. They tried to get to moonshine level raised to 15% which would have destroyed everything in 2 stroke and many small 4 stroke motors from Weed eaters to Boat motors. Thank God we had some one in the Congress that listened to all the emails they recieved from everyone. They cut the bill and sent is to file 13. You can bet the bill will come back in a new form of pork fat on the coat tails of some other bill and if folks are not on top of it they will get it threw. At that point all boat motors over 2 years old will be junk. The Motor manufacturers are already building the new motors designed to handle the 15% moonshine and they are being put on all new boats being sold. They don't want the EPA costing them millions of bucks in Warranty claims so the motor companies are staying ahead of the game. Thing is most anglers cannot afford to keep up. I have been fighting with the Feds about what Ethanol did to automobiles for the first 10 years they were putting it in fuel back when I was still working on cars for a living and they ignored me. Cars are getting less milage and needing more repairs than they ever would on 100% gas. They are not saving one barrel of imported oil with this moonshine. Fact be know it is forcing the oil companies to buy even more foreign oil because the cars and trucks are getting worse fuel milage and having to stop and buy fuel more. Well Whopper, I guess that answered his question I hope.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassinHomer Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 yeah ethanol is the devil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountainman Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 yeah ethanol is the devil Or "the debbil" as Bobby Bouchet's Momma would say.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnie Posted September 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Softy what are you really trying to say? Thanks for the info. Seems a lot of my H.P. problems might be the gas I'm running, and the additive I haven't been adding. I'll find out this weekend and let you know how it works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stump9000 Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 If that gas has gone bad you will need to drain it and add fresh, don't try to burn it out or you will be buying a power HEAD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softbaitmaker Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Softy what are you really trying to say? Thanks for the info. Seems a lot of my H.P. problems might be the gas I'm running, and the additive I haven't been adding. I'll find out this weekend and let you know how it works out. In short form Gas is JUNK these days. Marine Blue Sta-Bil is good these days. By hi-test and use Blue Stuff and one more suggestion besides what Stump said is put in a new set of Plugs...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountainman Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 s put in a new set of Plugs...... Most definetly....and be sure they are NGK's......not Champion, Autolite, or off brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker1861 Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Most definetly....and be sure they are NGK's......not Champion, Autolite, or off brand. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softbaitmaker Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 I buy NGK's by the box. I always have a new set in the boat in case I need to change plugs on the water. I have had to do it about 5 times since I bought the Bug Boat and Yamahammer. The Yamaha's are noted for oil fouling plugs due to their high powered oiling system. But I think that is a small price to pay for the good service I have gotten out of this motor.....JM worth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnie Posted September 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Didn't get to get out this weekend, but thanks fro the advice. I'm gonna try all the ideas. Hopefully one day this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb76 Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 There is a station down about 3 miles from my house that says "No Ethanol". I get my gas there for the boat and the lawn mower and I still add marine sta-bil just to be on the safe side. Will have to change my plugs to NGK's though. I think that I have champions right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troutburger Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 We got struck down by Ethanol last year and this year in Florida. With the humidity down there, water in the gas is a huge problem. Even our trucks don't like to run on the Ethanol gas down there. Luckily the boat has a fuel water filter. We've started keeping a spare in the boat, cause you never know when its going to go. I'd like to own stock in Stabil blue stuff, ring free and sea foam. We were using Star Tron Enzyme fuel treatment, b/c that's what the dealer recommended. The Star Tron let us down this year in Florida, of course the fuel/water filter was 1 year old so maybe that was the problem and not the treatment. I typically buy ethanol free gas. On my last trip, I went from Kingsport to Nashville on 3/4 of a tank of ethanol free gas. On the way back, I filled up with Ethanol gas in Nashville and was almost dead empty by exit 44. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountainman Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 I typically buy ethanol free gas. On my last trip, I went from Kingsport to Nashville on 3/4 of a tank of ethanol free gas. On the way back, I filled up with Ethanol gas in Nashville and was almost dead empty by exit 44. +1 its the same way with diesel. I dont know what they are doing to water it down (actually, alot of it has to do with the reduction of sulphur in the fuel. Sulphur acts as a lubricant, therefore making your engine operate easier), but if you stop at a true truck stop & fill up, you'll get 3-4 mpg better than a fill ups from a regular station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softbaitmaker Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 It has been proven over and over and over to those idiots in Washington that ethanol is costing consumers a fortune in lost fuel milage and more trips to the pumps not counting the repairs the junk costs folks but as long as those moonshiners keep lining there pockets behind closed doors they will continue to ignore the consumer complaints. Maybe this winter we should look at boycotting any stations with ethanol fuel if possible and pound the stations with 100% gas to get our point across and the stations doing without business might begin demanding 100% fuel be put in their tanks. Maybe the markets and stations can get someone listening........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnie Posted September 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 I have on station locally that doesn't have moonshine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softbaitmaker Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 I have one also and probably most of us have one close by or a little ways away but would be worth driving to if it would drive the point home that we are not going to buy E10 much less E15. We did have 3 locations here in town that had 100% gas but one of them was offered the local post office account which ment the postal vehicles would be fueled at his market but he had to switch to the E10 mixture and take his 100% gas sign down so he gave up the boat business for the post office business. I don't gues you can blame him but I don't see what difference it should have made to the post office but it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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