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WASHINGTON - The Environmental Protection Agency's waiver on Wednesday allowing gasoline to contain up to 15 percent ethanol is sure to both confuse and worry motorists. What can be expected from adding more of the corn-based alcohol? USA Today tries to answer some basic questions:

How soon will the change take place?

The EPA waiver clears the way for gas stations to start selling fuel with 15 percent ethanol, or E15, for cars and trucks built since 2007. Producers must go through a registration process, which could add a few months before it goes on sale. Currently, gasoline has up to a 10 percent ethanol blend.

The EPA may extend permitted use to 2001-06 vehicles in November, depending on how testing turns out.

•Should I put it in my car or truck?

The EPA says generally only for vehicles of the 2007 model year or newer. It says testing shows it won't harm them.

In addition, many cars and trucks have been designed as "flex-fuel" vehicles that can use E85, an 85 percent ethanol blend. They should have no problem with E15.

The reason for the caution is that ethanol can cause corrosion in engines not designed for it. There also are worries that E15 could harm some catalytic converters, so drivers should avoid an E15 pump if they have an older vehicle.

•What about other types of vehicles or engines?

The EPA specifically says motorcycles, boats, snowmobiles, lawnmowers, chainsaws and heavy-duty vehicles, such as delivery trucks and buses, are prohibited from using it.

•What is ethanol's benefit?

Ethanol is a home-grown, renewable fuel. Made primarily from corn in the U.S., it is considered a way to help lessen U.S. dependence on foreign oil.

•What are the disadvantages?

Using corn to make ethanol diverts it from use as animal feed and in foods, so could raise the price of products such as beef. Ethanol can add to some kinds of exhaust emissions.

•How will I know if a pump has E15 fuel?

The EPA says all pumps dispensing E15 must be clearly marked. It says it's proposing strict rules to make sure that there are no mix-ups in delivering fuel with different blends of ethanol to stations.

•Where did this E15 plan start?

The EPA says it was acting on a petition it received from 54 ethanol makers from March 2009. It says it received more than 78,000 comments on the plan. Ethanol has huge support in corn-growing states, where it is a hot political issue. Elections are only about a month away.

•Will a higher ethanol blend hurt my vehicle's fuel mileage?

Ethanol has only 65.8 percent as much energy as gasoline. A car that gets 25 miles per gallon on gasoline would get 24.1 mpg on E10 and 23.7 on E15.

•Will E15 blended gas cost more?

It's hard to say, but this might help. On Wednesday, the average price of a gallon of regular gas nationwide was $2.82. The price of E85, the heaviest ethanol blend, was far less - $2.375, AAA says.

But when the price is adjusted for the lowered gas mileage vehicles will get, the E85 price equals $3.126, AAA says.

Now once you have read this article you can look at the true percentages of what this garbage is going to really provide below because it does not take a space scientist to figure it out but the idiot that wrote the artile must have failed simple math in school.

If ethanol has only 65.8% as much as energy as gasoline, then the mileage should be 16.45 miles on E10.(65.8% of 25 MPG = 16.45), and not 24.1 mpg.

If the arithmetic is incorrect then he/she should be sent back to junior high school for a class in simple mathematics.

If the facts stated in the article are otherwise incorrect then whoever published this should be spanked for not checking before publishing such crap!

What Vehicles and Engines May Not Use E15? In a question and answer session the answer below was enough to make me sick :puke::puke::puke: .

All motorcycles.

All vehicles with heavy-duty engines, such as school buses, transit buses, and delivery trucks.

All off-road vehicles, such as boats and snowmobiles.

All engines in off-road equipment, such as lawnmowers and chain saws.

All 2006 model-year and older cars.

I guess it's time to put a lawyer on retainer and get rerady to sue everyone connected with this decision when this junk blows my motor up on my boat or jeep because a tank truck driver half asleep put this garbage in the wrong fuel tank in the ground at some filling station......... :mad::mad::mad:


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I will ahve you know the date went just fine and we have seen each other twice more for lunch and just riding around talking and getting to know each other........... :moon::moon:

i bet her ears were red as heck after the drive and chat...what battle in Nam. did you stop today..... :popcorn::potstir:

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i bet her ears were red as heck after the drive and chat...what battle in Nam. did you stop today..... :popcorn::potstir:

I'll have you know there has not been any war stories or discussions of my military life. And I will also have you know I have become a very good listerner and our discussions have been just casual ones. Nothing heavy or deep. I ask a question and she answers it and she will ask one and I will answer it. She likes to do most things I enjoy such as shooting, fishing, Sci-Fi movies, boat riding, dining out, yard sales, just walking through BPS without buying anything and alot of other plain stuff. She has a great personality and attends Church every Sunday with her Sisters and brother in laws..... :popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

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If she has money I have no idea why she would be working part time with my daughter but money is not an issue. I have already walked away from two that had lots of money but had personalities like pigs in a hog lot. Oh yea Viagra is only for old men like you. Real men don't need it. You know what they say about things. "First dog that barks knows from experience"........... :lol::lol::moon::moon::poke::poke:

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you were the old fart that brought up using it....not me....i just thought it would be a up and coming sponcer on your boat...you know get up on pad fast for those long runs in those nite Tx's ...to keep you a head of the field...and stand tall in the seat so we can all see ya... :cheers:

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How did this go from E15 gas to this? HAHAHAHA

You just hang around long enough my young Jedi and you will learn the ways of the FORCE. A thread can go in 1000's of different directions in a flash when folks get on a target....If you every get time go read about Trackers Infamous pickled eggs.......I wish Showdown on the Big D was here. you would really have some good reading......... :lol::lol::lol:

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